Legislature(2013 - 2014)CAPITOL 106

03/19/2014 08:00 AM House EDUCATION


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08:11:37 AM Start
08:11:54 AM Confirmation Hearing(s)
08:51:16 AM HB341
09:37:26 AM HR9
10:04:03 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HR 9 DELAY IMPLEMENTATION OF ED STANDARDS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
*+ HB 341 SCHOOL CONSTRUCTION, DESIGN & FUNDING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Confirmation Hearings: TELECONFERENCED
- State Board of Education & Early Development
- Professional Teaching Practices Commission
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
           HR 9-DELAY IMPLEMENTATION OF ED STANDARDS                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:37:26 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                              
HOUSE RESOLUTION  NO. 9, Urging the commissioner  of education and                                                              
early  development and  the  state Board  of  Education and  Early                                                              
Development  to   delay  implementation  of   statewide  education                                                              
standards.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:37:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD  moved to  adopt  the proposed  committee                                                              
substitute (CS)  for HR 9, labeled 28-LS1224\U,  Mischel, 3/18/14,                                                              
as the working document.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:38:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS asked  to have  the motion  restated, including  the                                                              
version.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD  moved to  adopt  the proposed  committee                                                              
substitute  (CS)  for  HR  9,  Version   U,  labeled  28-LS1224\U,                                                              
Mischel,  3/18/14  as  the  working  document.    There  being  no                                                              
objection, Version U was before the committee.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:39:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE TAMMIE  WILSON, Alaska State Legislature,  as prime                                                              
sponsor of  HR 9, said this resolution  came about as  a result of                                                              
frustration.   The  state considers  the  cost to  the state  when                                                              
considering  policy changes but  it doesn't  consider the  cost to                                                              
local   municipalities  or   schools.     She   pointed  out   the                                                              
significant    changes   ranging    from   teacher    evaluations,                                                              
standardized  testing,  and  implementing  new standards.    These                                                              
changes may  adversely affect  school districts  depending  on the                                                              
curriculum  the districts  are  currently using  and  how the  new                                                              
standards  differ.   The original  version of  HR 9 reflected  her                                                              
interest  in  just  delaying  or  halting  the  process  to  allow                                                              
districts  time to  evaluate costs.   She reported  that the  task                                                              
force  contacted   districts  and   initially  found   frustration                                                              
mounting,  but since  then  some adapting  has  occurred.   Still,                                                              
some districts  expressed concern  that they  may not  have enough                                                              
time  to  get everything  in  place  quickly  enough.   Thus,  the                                                              
proposed  committee   substitute,  Version  U,  requests   a  cost                                                              
analysis for implementing  educational standards, noting  that the                                                              
costs will vary  between districts.  Secondly,  Version U requests                                                              
that  the  department  and  the  State  Board  of  Education  help                                                              
districts transition  to the new requirements.  This  will help to                                                              
assess  whether districts  can implement  new  curriculum and  new                                                              
methods of  teaching so  districts can  accurately assess  student                                                              
levels rather  than student scores  reflecting that  the districts                                                              
didn't have  enough time  to change  teaching methods,  which were                                                              
extensively revised.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  GATTIS  suggested  the  standards   imposed  may  represent                                                              
unfunded mandates.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:43:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  P. WILSON  said a  major aspect  is that  teachers                                                              
are being  asked to teach  at a higher  standard and to  have them                                                              
do  so means  the department  and districts  must provide  massive                                                              
in-service  teacher   training.     She  expressed   concern  that                                                              
teachers  will  not  be  sufficiently  ready.    Teacher  training                                                              
represents a high  cost for the state and the  department does not                                                              
currently  have  the funding  for  this  training.   Further,  she                                                              
emphasized  the  importance  of  having  the  university  provides                                                              
training  so new  teachers  will  be using  best  practices.   She                                                              
suggested  it might  be good to  have some  delay in  implementing                                                              
the new standards.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:45:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  T.  WILSON  added  that  it isn't  just  the  more                                                              
rigorous standards,  but the student testing has  also changed and                                                              
is more in-depth  testing so the analysis is different,  too.  She                                                              
characterized  it  as  being similar  to  changing  from  multiple                                                              
choice  tests to  in-depth essays.   In  addition, techniques  for                                                              
teaching  styles have  also changed.   She  has received  positive                                                              
feedback on  the changes, especially  for teacher  evaluation, but                                                              
the time required  for implementation is an issue.   She suggested                                                              
that  perhaps delaying  implementing new  testing to  allow for  a                                                              
transition year.   She said, "We are teaching to the  test."  In a                                                              
sense,  the training  in  most professions  leads  to passing  the                                                              
test.   She would like  to ensure that  the teachers  and students                                                              
have  adequate time  to  make the  changes.    Finally, the  state                                                              
formula  allows changes  to  occur  every six  years.   She  asked                                                              
whether  the  districts  have  budgeted   costs  to  change  their                                                              
curriculum.       She   maintained   her   concern    on   whether                                                              
administrators  have time to  go through the  process to  make the                                                              
changes.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   P.  WILSON   maintained   interest  in   ensuring                                                              
appropriate training for the teachers.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:49:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD offered  her belief  that changes  should                                                              
be  suspended pending  broad community  feedback.   She  suggested                                                              
that  the  legislature  should  have  a  10-year  cost  evaluation                                                              
period, including  costs for the waiver, implementation,  aligning                                                              
the curriculum  to the CCSS,  teacher training, assessment  costs,                                                              
and  individual  district impacts.    In addition,  she  expressed                                                              
interest  in  the  classroom  time   necessary  to  implement  the                                                              
standards.   She maintained her  interest in delaying  the changes                                                              
for stated reasons and to obtain feedback on a national level.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:51:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS opened public testimony on HR 9.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:51:49 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEWART  MCDONALD, Superintendent,  Kodiak  Island Borough  School                                                              
District  (KIBSD), recalled  a paper  in which  he has written  an                                                              
article about the  changes being implemented today  in schools and                                                              
the  effects   that  are  experienced.     He  said   patience  is                                                              
important,   especially   when  student   scores   drop,  due   to                                                              
transition.    The  drop  is  a  necessary  part  of  the  forward                                                              
movement.   As  teachers  practice  the new  standards  it can  be                                                              
sloppy  and  tough;   however,  delaying  the  progress   will  be                                                              
hurtful, he  said.  Further,  attaching performance to  funding is                                                              
a  mistake.   It is  important  to continue  to  move forward,  he                                                              
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:55:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PEGGY COWAN, Superintendent,  North Slope Borough  School District                                                              
(NSBSD), said  the district embraces  the new national  standards.                                                              
The NSBSD  has been committed  to the rigor  reflected in  the new                                                              
state standards.   She acknowledged the intent is  for students to                                                              
be  capable  as   students  in  other  states   so  uniformity  is                                                              
important.   She  clarified  that the  NSBSD  is not  in favor  of                                                              
standardization.    She  emphasized that  implementation  will  be                                                              
applied  in  a   relevant  manner  and  context   to  North  Slope                                                              
students.  She  expressed concern about the costs,  but stated the                                                              
standards represent  the foundation of  reform.  If  the standards                                                              
are  delayed  the  teacher  evaluations   also  will  need  to  be                                                              
delayed.   Moving back would be  demoralizing to the  teachers who                                                              
have spent  years being  trained and  significant time  developing                                                              
units.    Thus,  it's  important   to  continue  the  momentum  in                                                              
implementing  the  standards.    She urged  members  to  stay  the                                                              
course to  ensure that  Alaska's students  are competitive  in the                                                              
state and in the nation.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:59:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUNNY  HILTS,  President,  Association  of  Alaska  School  Boards                                                              
(AASB),  expressed similar  concerns,  but said  the district  has                                                              
been working for  two years to realign the curriculum  to meet the                                                              
standards.   Currently, districts  face morale  challenges  due to                                                              
the  uncertainty  of  funding.     She  offered  her  belief  that                                                              
changing  course  right now  on  the  standards would  be  further                                                              
discouragement.   Although shift  was difficult, the  teachers and                                                              
the district were  physically tested, and the process  was costly,                                                              
the district  made it.  Everyone  made this effort to  provide the                                                              
best education for  students.  She emphasized that  delay will not                                                              
give them  that best  education, will  mean returning  to inferior                                                              
standards,  and create confusion.   She  hoped the committee  will                                                              
encourage  districts across  the state  to move  forward with  the                                                              
program  and  implement the  new  standards.   She  requested  the                                                              
state provide  assistance to districts  during this process.   She                                                              
concluded  by saying  that  the  [Kenai Peninsula  Borough  School                                                              
District's]  teachers  are  ready   and  they  have  been  looking                                                              
forward to this for several years.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:01:03 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MIKE  COONS  offered  his  belief  that  if  students  can't  meet                                                              
today's  standards  that there  aren't  assurances  they have  the                                                              
ability  to   pass  the   new  [statewide  education   performance                                                              
standards,  described as  college and  career readiness  standards                                                              
adopted by  the State Board of  Education].  He  expressed concern                                                              
about  how this  may affect  children's self-esteem  and ego,  and                                                              
said  that teaching  to  the test  is  not a  good  practice.   He                                                              
considered  the  new  standards  to be  another  federal  unfunded                                                              
mandate.  He stated that he fully endorses HR 9.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR GATTIS closed public testimony on HR 9.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:02:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE T.  WILSON responded to comments by  first pointing                                                              
out  the   committee  substitute   [Version   U]  is  before   the                                                              
committee.    Initially,   the  intent  of  HR  9   was  to  delay                                                              
implementation,  but the  committee substitute,  Version U,  calls                                                              
for costs  to districts to implement  the changes and to  ensure a                                                              
smooth  transition  to  allow  all   districts  to  implement  the                                                              
changes.   Some smaller  districts have  more difficulty  adopting                                                              
the new  performance standards due  to limited resources  and this                                                              
will  provide for  transition  time to  ensure  that students  are                                                              
tested on their knowledge, she said.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
10:03:27 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON  asked  for further  clarification  on  the                                                              
length of the transition time.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
[HR 9 was held over.]                                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HR 9 Supporting document AK State Constitution education clause.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HR 9 Supporting document Common Core Issues.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HR 9 Supporting document Common Core national curriculum.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HR 9 Supporting document Truth in America.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HR 9 Supporting documents Common Core roll out.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HR 9 Supporting documents Common Core testing.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HR 9 Supporting documents Maryland needs $100 million for online Common Core tests.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR(
HR 9 Supporting documents Stop Common Core Illinois.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HR 9 Supporting documents Trimming the Cost of Common-Core Implementation.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HR 9 Supporting documents Why so many parents hate Common Core.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HR 9 Supporting documents Would You Like Fries With Your iPad.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
Education - Gallahorn #3.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
Confirmations
Education - Thompson #3.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
Confirmations
Education - Yarr #3.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
Confirmations
Prof Teaching - Piazza #3.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
Confirmations
Prof Teaching - van Wagner #3.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
Confirmations
HB0341A.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 341
HB341 Sponsor statement.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 341
HB341 Sectional summary.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 341
HB341 fiscalNote - Rev.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 341
HB341 fiscalNote - DEED.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 341
CCHRC Legislative Presentation.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 341
HB 341-AHFC Presentation.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 341
CS for HR9.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9
HB 341 Supporting Document-AHFC White Paper.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HB 341
HR 9 Supporting documents Maryland needs $100 million for online Common Core tests.pdf HEDC 3/19/2014 8:00:00 AM
HR 9